BMW B58 vs 1.2 8v Fire: which engine is more reliable?
According to our risk index, the 1.2 8v Fire carries less risk than the BMW B58: 20/100 (low risk) versus 38/100 (moderate risk). The BMW B58 has 1 documented serious fault, the main one being «Failure of the oil pump with a plastic rotor housing»; the 1.2 8v Fire has no documented serious faults.
The index (0–100) weights the severity and frequency of the three most serious documented faults. How it is calculated
Is the BMW B58 reliable?
The B58 (3.0 turbo straight-six, since 2015) is considered robust and less troublesome than the N54/N55 it replaced, and the sources do not document widespread internal failures. The known faults are on the periphery: the plastic oil filter housing, crankcase ventilation, gaskets and coolant. On units built before 2021 there are also US reports of an oil pump with a plastic housing.[1][2][3][4]
See the 6 of the BMW B58 faultsIs the 1.2 8v Fire reliable?
The 1.2 8v Fire is one of Fiat's simplest and most widespread petrol engines, with more than two decades in production and no serious or systemic faults documented. The sources consulted describe it as robust: its most-cited issues are isolated sensor failures (lambda sensor, crankshaft sensor), the ignition coil and somewhat high oil consumption at higher mileages; there is no pattern of timing belt breakage.[5][6][7][8][9][10]
See the 4 of the 1.2 8v Fire faultsSide-by-side comparison
| Item | BMW B58 | 1.2 8v Fire |
|---|---|---|
| Technical data | ||
| Type | Engine | Engine |
| Fuel | Petrol | Petrol |
| Displacement | 2,998 cm³ | 1,242 cm³ |
| Timing | Chain | Timing belt (dry) |
| Power | 290–441 hp | 60–69 hp |
| Production | since 2015[11][12] | 1999–2020[13][14][15][16] |
| Reliability | ||
| Risk index (what is it?) | 38Moderate risk | 20Low risk |
| Documented faults | 6 | 4 |
| Of high or critical severity | 1 | 0 |
| Worst severity | High severity | Medium severity |
| Main faults |
| |
| Most expensive documented repair | No reliable data | No reliable data |
| Which versions to buy | ||
| BuyRecommended versions | ||
| With cautionVersions to be cautious about | None | |
| AvoidVersions to avoid | None | None |
Severity of each fault: green, low; amber, medium; red, high; dark red, critical. How we rate them
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With the BMW B58
- BMW B58 vs 1.2 PureTech
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 PureTech
- BMW B58 vs 1.2 and 1.4 TSI
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 TSI / 1.5 TSI
- BMW B58 vs 1.2 TCe
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 EcoBoost
- BMW B58 vs 1.3 TCe
- BMW B58 vs 1.6 EcoBoost
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 TSI / TFSI
- BMW B58 vs Audi 3.0 TFSI V6
- BMW B58 vs BMW B38 / B37
- BMW B58 vs BMW B48 / B38
- BMW B58 vs BMW M54
- BMW B58 vs BMW N13
- BMW B58 vs BMW N20
- BMW B58 vs BMW N43/N46
- BMW B58 vs BMW N52 / N53
- BMW B58 vs BMW N54/N55
- BMW B58 vs BMW N62 / N63
- BMW B58 vs 1.4 T-Jet
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 T3 and 1.3 T4 FireFly Turbo
- BMW B58 vs 0.9 TwinAir and 1.0/1.3 FireFly
- BMW B58 vs 1.5 EcoBoost
- BMW B58 vs 1.25/1.4/1.6 Ti-VCT
- BMW B58 vs 1.2 / 1.4 / 1.8 i-VTEC
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 / 1.5 VTEC Turbo
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 / 2.4 i-VTEC
- BMW B58 vs Honda e:HEV / i-MMD
- BMW B58 vs Honda IMA híbrido
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 T-GDI
- BMW B58 vs 1.6 GDI / T-GDI
- BMW B58 vs 1.6 GDi híbrido (Kappa)
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 / 1.25 MPi
- BMW B58 vs Smartstream 1.6 T-GDi
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 / 2.4 GDI and T-GDI (Theta II)
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 and 3.0 Ingenium gasolina
- BMW B58 vs 2.3 MZR DISI Turbo
- BMW B58 vs MZR gasolina
- BMW B58 vs Skyactiv-G
- BMW B58 vs M111
- BMW B58 vs M112 / M113
- BMW B58 vs M264/M254
- BMW B58 vs M260
- BMW B58 vs M271
- BMW B58 vs M272/M273
- BMW B58 vs M270/M274
- BMW B58 vs 1.5 VTi-TECH / T-GDI
- BMW B58 vs MIVEC gasolina
- BMW B58 vs Mitsubishi PHEV
- BMW B58 vs 1.6 DIG-T
- BMW B58 vs 1.5 VC-Turbo e-Power
- BMW B58 vs 1.2 HR12DE and 1.2 DIG-S (HR12DDR)
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 MR20DE / 2.5 QR25DE
- BMW B58 vs 1.6 16v HR16DE / H4M
- BMW B58 vs 1.0/1.2/1.4 Ecotec
- BMW B58 vs 1.4 Turbo
- BMW B58 vs 1.6 and 1.8 Ecotec 16v
- BMW B58 vs Porsche V8 and V6 (Cayenne and Panamera)
- BMW B58 vs 1.4 and 1.6 TU3/TU5
- BMW B58 vs 1.4/1.6 VTi
- BMW B58 vs 1.6 THP
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 and 2.2 16v EW10/EW12
- BMW B58 vs 0.9 TCe
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 SCe (B4D)
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 TCe / SCe
- BMW B58 vs 1.4 and 1.6 8v
- BMW B58 vs 1.2 16v
- BMW B58 vs E-Tech Híbrido
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 16v F4R and F4RT
- BMW B58 vs 1.4 and 1.6 16v
- BMW B58 vs Rover K-Series
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 and 1.4 Boosterjet
- BMW B58 vs 1.2 Dualjet and 1.2 VVT
- BMW B58 vs 1.5 K15B (Jimny)
- BMW B58 vs 1.3, 1.5 and 1.6 gasolina (serie M)
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 VVT-i
- BMW B58 vs 1.2 Turbo
- BMW B58 vs 1.33 Dual VVT-i
- BMW B58 vs 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 VVT-i
- BMW B58 vs 1.5 Hybrid
- BMW B58 vs 1.6 Dual VVT-i
- BMW B58 vs 1.8 Hybrid
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 and 2.4 VVT-i
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 and 2.5 Hybrid
- BMW B58 vs Volvo 5 cilindros gasolina
- BMW B58 vs Drive-E gasolina
- BMW B58 vs 1.0 MPI
- BMW B58 vs 1.2 12V
- BMW B58 vs 1.4 16v and 1.6 MPI/FSI
- BMW B58 vs 1.8 T 20v
- BMW B58 vs 2.0 FSI
- BMW B58 vs VW 2.0 TFSI EA113
With the 1.2 8v Fire
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 PureTech
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 PureTech
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 and 1.4 TSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 TSI / 1.5 TSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 TCe
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 EcoBoost
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.3 TCe
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 EcoBoost
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 TSI / TFSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Audi 3.0 TFSI V6
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW B38 / B37
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW B48 / B38
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW M54
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N13
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N20
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N43/N46
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N52 / N53
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N54/N55
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N62 / N63
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 T-Jet
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 T3 and 1.3 T4 FireFly Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 0.9 TwinAir and 1.0/1.3 FireFly
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 EcoBoost
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.25/1.4/1.6 Ti-VCT
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 / 1.4 / 1.8 i-VTEC
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 / 1.5 VTEC Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 / 2.4 i-VTEC
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Honda e:HEV / i-MMD
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Honda IMA híbrido
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 T-GDI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 GDI / T-GDI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 GDi híbrido (Kappa)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 / 1.25 MPi
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Smartstream 1.6 T-GDi
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 / 2.4 GDI and T-GDI (Theta II)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 and 3.0 Ingenium gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.3 MZR DISI Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs MZR gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Skyactiv-G
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M111
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M112 / M113
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M264/M254
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M260
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M271
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M272/M273
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M270/M274
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 VTi-TECH / T-GDI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs MIVEC gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Mitsubishi PHEV
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 DIG-T
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 VC-Turbo e-Power
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 HR12DE and 1.2 DIG-S (HR12DDR)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 MR20DE / 2.5 QR25DE
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 16v HR16DE / H4M
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0/1.2/1.4 Ecotec
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 and 1.8 Ecotec 16v
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Porsche V8 and V6 (Cayenne and Panamera)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 and 1.6 TU3/TU5
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4/1.6 VTi
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 THP
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 and 2.2 16v EW10/EW12
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 0.9 TCe
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 SCe (B4D)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 TCe / SCe
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 and 1.6 8v
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 16v
- 1.2 8v Fire vs E-Tech Híbrido
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 16v F4R and F4RT
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 and 1.6 16v
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Rover K-Series
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 and 1.4 Boosterjet
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 Dualjet and 1.2 VVT
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 K15B (Jimny)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.3, 1.5 and 1.6 gasolina (serie M)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.33 Dual VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 Hybrid
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 Dual VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.8 Hybrid
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 and 2.4 VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 and 2.5 Hybrid
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Volvo 5 cilindros gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Drive-E gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 MPI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 12V
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 16v and 1.6 MPI/FSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.8 T 20v
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 FSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs VW 2.0 TFSI EA113
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Sources
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