1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 and 1.6 16v: which engine is more reliable?
According to our risk index, the 1.2 8v Fire carries less risk than the 1.4 and 1.6 16v: 20/100 (low risk) versus 45/100 (moderate risk). The 1.2 8v Fire has no documented serious faults; the 1.4 and 1.6 16v has 1 documented serious fault, the main one being «Timing belt breakage or premature failure».
The index (0–100) weights the severity and frequency of the three most serious documented faults. How it is calculated
Is the 1.2 8v Fire reliable?
The 1.2 8v Fire is one of Fiat's simplest and most widespread petrol engines, with more than two decades in production and no serious or systemic faults documented. The sources consulted describe it as robust: its most-cited issues are isolated sensor failures (lambda sensor, crankshaft sensor), the ignition coil and somewhat high oil consumption at higher mileages; there is no pattern of timing belt breakage.[1][2][3][4][5][6]
See the 4 of the 1.2 8v Fire faultsIs the 1.4 and 1.6 16v reliable?
The K4J (1.4) and K4M (1.6), both naturally aspirated 16-valve units, are simple and generally reliable petrol engines: no source consulted documents oil consumption or faults that destroy the block. Their most-cited weak point is the ignition coils, followed by the crankshaft sensor and, on versions with a variable valve timing unit, its pulley; a neglected belt can cause serious damage, as one case in the Renault Laguna II documents.[7][8][9][10]
See the 6 of the 1.4 and 1.6 16v faultsSide-by-side comparison
| Item | 1.2 8v Fire | 1.4 and 1.6 16v |
|---|---|---|
| Technical data | ||
| Type | Engine | Engine |
| Fuel | Petrol | Petrol |
| Displacement | 1,242 cm³ | — |
| Timing | Timing belt (dry) | Timing belt (dry) |
| Power | 60–69 hp | 75–135 hp |
| Production | 1999–2020[11][12][13][14] | since 1998[15][16][17] |
| Reliability | ||
| Risk index (what is it?) | 20Low risk | 45Moderate risk |
| Documented faults | 4 | 6 |
| Of high or critical severity | 0 | 1 |
| Worst severity | Medium severity | High severity |
| Main faults |
| |
| Most expensive documented repair | No reliable data | No reliable data |
| Which versions to buy | ||
| BuyRecommended versions | ||
| With cautionVersions to be cautious about | None | |
| AvoidVersions to avoid | None | None |
Severity of each fault: green, low; amber, medium; red, high; dark red, critical. How we rate them
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Other comparisons
With the 1.2 8v Fire
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 PureTech
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 PureTech
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 and 1.4 TSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 TSI / 1.5 TSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 TCe
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 EcoBoost
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.3 TCe
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 EcoBoost
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 TSI / TFSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Audi 3.0 TFSI V6
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW B38 / B37
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW B48 / B38
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW B58
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW M54
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N13
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N20
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N43/N46
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N52 / N53
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N54/N55
- 1.2 8v Fire vs BMW N62 / N63
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 T-Jet
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 T3 and 1.3 T4 FireFly Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 0.9 TwinAir and 1.0/1.3 FireFly
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 EcoBoost
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.25/1.4/1.6 Ti-VCT
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 / 1.4 / 1.8 i-VTEC
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 / 1.5 VTEC Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 / 2.4 i-VTEC
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Honda e:HEV / i-MMD
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Honda IMA híbrido
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 T-GDI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 GDI / T-GDI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 GDi híbrido (Kappa)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 / 1.25 MPi
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Smartstream 1.6 T-GDi
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 / 2.4 GDI and T-GDI (Theta II)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 and 3.0 Ingenium gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.3 MZR DISI Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs MZR gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Skyactiv-G
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M111
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M112 / M113
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M264/M254
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M260
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M271
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M272/M273
- 1.2 8v Fire vs M270/M274
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 VTi-TECH / T-GDI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs MIVEC gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Mitsubishi PHEV
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 DIG-T
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 VC-Turbo e-Power
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 HR12DE and 1.2 DIG-S (HR12DDR)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 MR20DE / 2.5 QR25DE
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 16v HR16DE / H4M
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0/1.2/1.4 Ecotec
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 and 1.8 Ecotec 16v
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Porsche V8 and V6 (Cayenne and Panamera)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 and 1.6 TU3/TU5
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4/1.6 VTi
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 THP
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 and 2.2 16v EW10/EW12
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 0.9 TCe
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 SCe (B4D)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 TCe / SCe
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 and 1.6 8v
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.8 TCe
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 16v
- 1.2 8v Fire vs E-Tech Híbrido
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 16v F4R and F4RT
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Rover K-Series
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 and 1.4 Boosterjet
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 Dualjet and 1.2 VVT
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 K15B (Jimny)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.3, 1.5 and 1.6 gasolina (serie M)
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 Turbo
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.33 Dual VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.5 Hybrid
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.6 Dual VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.8 Hybrid
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 and 2.4 VVT-i
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 and 2.5 Hybrid
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Volvo 5 cilindros gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs Drive-E gasolina
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.0 MPI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.2 12V
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.4 16v and 1.6 MPI/FSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 1.8 T 20v
- 1.2 8v Fire vs 2.0 FSI
- 1.2 8v Fire vs VW 2.0 TFSI EA113
With the 1.4 and 1.6 16v
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.2 PureTech
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 PureTech
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.2 and 1.4 TSI
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 TSI / 1.5 TSI
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.2 TCe
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 EcoBoost
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.3 TCe
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.6 EcoBoost
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 TSI / TFSI
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Audi 3.0 TFSI V6
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW B38 / B37
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW B48 / B38
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW B58
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW M54
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW N13
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW N20
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW N43/N46
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW N52 / N53
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW N54/N55
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs BMW N62 / N63
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.4 T-Jet
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 T3 and 1.3 T4 FireFly Turbo
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 0.9 TwinAir and 1.0/1.3 FireFly
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.5 EcoBoost
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.25/1.4/1.6 Ti-VCT
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.2 / 1.4 / 1.8 i-VTEC
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 / 1.5 VTEC Turbo
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 / 2.4 i-VTEC
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Honda e:HEV / i-MMD
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Honda IMA híbrido
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 T-GDI
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.6 GDI / T-GDI
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.6 GDi híbrido (Kappa)
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 / 1.25 MPi
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Smartstream 1.6 T-GDi
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 / 2.4 GDI and T-GDI (Theta II)
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 and 3.0 Ingenium gasolina
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.3 MZR DISI Turbo
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs MZR gasolina
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Skyactiv-G
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs M111
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs M112 / M113
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs M264/M254
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs M260
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs M271
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs M272/M273
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs M270/M274
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.5 VTi-TECH / T-GDI
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs MIVEC gasolina
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Mitsubishi PHEV
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.6 DIG-T
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.5 VC-Turbo e-Power
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.2 HR12DE and 1.2 DIG-S (HR12DDR)
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 MR20DE / 2.5 QR25DE
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.6 16v HR16DE / H4M
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0/1.2/1.4 Ecotec
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.4 Turbo
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.6 and 1.8 Ecotec 16v
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Porsche V8 and V6 (Cayenne and Panamera)
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.4 and 1.6 TU3/TU5
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.4/1.6 VTi
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.6 THP
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 and 2.2 16v EW10/EW12
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 0.9 TCe
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 SCe (B4D)
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 TCe / SCe
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.4 and 1.6 8v
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.8 TCe
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.2 16v
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs E-Tech Híbrido
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 16v F4R and F4RT
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Rover K-Series
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 and 1.4 Boosterjet
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.2 Dualjet and 1.2 VVT
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.5 K15B (Jimny)
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.3, 1.5 and 1.6 gasolina (serie M)
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 VVT-i
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.2 Turbo
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.33 Dual VVT-i
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 VVT-i
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.5 Hybrid
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.6 Dual VVT-i
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.8 Hybrid
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 and 2.4 VVT-i
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 and 2.5 Hybrid
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Volvo 5 cilindros gasolina
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs Drive-E gasolina
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.0 MPI
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.2 12V
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.4 16v and 1.6 MPI/FSI
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 1.8 T 20v
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs 2.0 FSI
- 1.4 and 1.6 16v vs VW 2.0 TFSI EA113
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